Comments on: To Bribe Or Not To – That Is The Question! http://politeindian.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/to-bribe-or-not-to-that-is-the-question/ Say what you have to say but say politely Sun, 09 Mar 2008 02:13:08 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Noorbert http://politeindian.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/to-bribe-or-not-to-that-is-the-question/#comment-2666 Noorbert Sat, 21 Apr 2007 13:09:28 +0000 http://politeindian.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/to-bribe-or-not-to-that-is-the-question/#comment-2666 GET-GREENCARD.COM Organization provides Immigration Information through the website http://www.get-greencard.com. The Organization enables non-American users to apply for the American Green Card Lottery Program online helping them in making sure their Green Card Lottery Application Qualifies to participate. The GET-GREENCARD.COM Organization is not an American Government related agency we are an Independent Organization. For more details about our Organization please visit: http://www.get-greencard.com/about.php GET-GREENCARD.COM Organization provides Immigration Information through the website http://www.get-greencard.com. The Organization enables non-American users to apply for the American Green Card Lottery Program online helping them in making sure their Green Card Lottery Application Qualifies to participate. The GET-GREENCARD.COM Organization is not an American Government related agency we are an Independent Organization. For more details about our Organization please visit: http://www.get-greencard.com/about.php

]]> By: Vinaya Singh http://politeindian.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/to-bribe-or-not-to-that-is-the-question/#comment-2159 Vinaya Singh Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:56:30 +0000 http://politeindian.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/to-bribe-or-not-to-that-is-the-question/#comment-2159 Sabrina, I am not sure, if recording of bribing and reporting to government agency in India will work. What if, that agency also shares the bribe? The best way is to bring that tape to the eyes of public with the help of NGO or media. Thanks and Regards, Vinaya Sabrina,

I am not sure, if recording of bribing and reporting to government agency in India will work. What if, that agency also shares the bribe? The best way is to bring that tape to the eyes of public with the help of NGO or media.

Thanks and Regards,
Vinaya

]]> By: Vinaya Singh http://politeindian.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/to-bribe-or-not-to-that-is-the-question/#comment-2158 Vinaya Singh Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:40:09 +0000 http://politeindian.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/to-bribe-or-not-to-that-is-the-question/#comment-2158 Dear Polite Indian, In my opinion, Bribe givers and Bribe takers, both must be slapped with shoes (Dono ko Jute marana chahiye) at public places. The givers are creating inconvenience to others and takers are getting habituated to it and smell blood everywhere. Once takers mouth blood, they never want to abandon it and givers are making an illegal work legal. There are many occasions where givers, with help of takers, are making the law of land their prostitutes. Development of a land is also being affected because of these bastards. Please excuse me for the unconstitutional world, but this comes from me because of my experiences with these anti-social elements. For more details read my paper at: vinay1340.wordpress.com. Thanks & Regards, Vinaya Dear Polite Indian,

In my opinion, Bribe givers and Bribe takers, both must be slapped with shoes (Dono ko Jute marana chahiye) at public places. The givers are creating inconvenience to others and takers are getting habituated to it and smell blood everywhere. Once takers mouth blood, they never want to abandon it and givers are making an illegal work legal. There are many occasions where givers, with help of takers, are making the law of land their prostitutes. Development of a land is also being affected because of these bastards. Please excuse me for the unconstitutional world, but this comes from me because of my experiences with these anti-social elements. For more details read my paper at: vinay1340.wordpress.com.

Thanks & Regards,
Vinaya

]]> By: sabrina http://politeindian.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/to-bribe-or-not-to-that-is-the-question/#comment-2132 sabrina Tue, 03 Apr 2007 16:14:46 +0000 http://politeindian.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/to-bribe-or-not-to-that-is-the-question/#comment-2132 If you ave to give bribe take your camera and tape recod with you and after you given them bribe as no choice, report them to Govt agency with proof you have. If you ave to give bribe take your camera and tape recod with you and after you given them bribe as no choice, report them to Govt agency with proof you have.

]]> By: sabrina http://politeindian.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/to-bribe-or-not-to-that-is-the-question/#comment-2131 sabrina Tue, 03 Apr 2007 15:54:35 +0000 http://politeindian.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/to-bribe-or-not-to-that-is-the-question/#comment-2131 Well.You all are talking about India. Let us talk about USA, where all desi comes here and bribg corruption form back home India/paksitan. I went to Indian Embassy in Chicago IL in 2001 to apply for a Indian Passport and took care of all requirment. I called them many times and no responce over the phone. I went to see Embacider and they refused to me saying that he is not there, after they found out reason and I found out he is in the office. FInally I went to see him and he asked me stupid question saying what proof do you have you are from India.They checked my police back ground form India but giving me a hard time. They keep on using differnt excuses not to give my passport till today and someone told me one ladey go ge tevery onc epassport to embassy but I have to pay her $1000 in her hand asw a bribe. WHy I should give my hard money earned if I fullfilled everything I supposed to. Few months latter I left to Atlanta, GA and called from there and long hold. And finally they told me I have to bring someone to themwho knows me from back home, then they told me if I am a citizen/Green card of USA and if I can't proove that they can't issue me passport, saying htey have to report to immigraqtion and basically they were aswking me to pay big amount not to report to immigration. If I have green card or not,fact is I am Indian citizen and Indian passport means or to whome to issue those are indian citizens, where is a question here about about American citizen as I wa snot asking USA passport from them.I send them certified mail and email few times but not received passport yet. These Indian criminals those are corruptd back home, exploite their own people and more money is less for them and suck their ownpeople bone mero till they die. I like to find out if there is any way to punish these corrupted Desi working for Indian embassy in USA chicago. Well.You all are talking about India. Let us talk about USA, where all desi comes here and bribg corruption form back home India/paksitan. I went to Indian Embassy in Chicago IL in 2001 to apply for a Indian Passport and took care of all requirment. I called them many times and no responce over the phone. I went to see Embacider and they refused to me saying that he is not there, after they found out reason and I found out he is in the office. FInally I went to see him and he asked me stupid question saying what proof do you have you are from India.They checked my police back ground form India but giving me a hard time. They keep on using differnt excuses not to give my passport till today and someone told me one ladey go ge tevery onc epassport to embassy but I have to pay her $1000 in her hand asw a bribe. WHy I should give my hard money earned if I fullfilled everything I supposed to. Few months latter I left to Atlanta, GA and called from there and long hold. And finally they told me I have to bring someone to themwho knows me from back home, then they told me if I am a citizen/Green card of USA and if I can’t proove that they can’t issue me passport, saying htey have to report to immigraqtion and basically they were aswking me to pay big amount not to report to immigration. If I have green card or not,fact is I am Indian citizen and Indian passport means or to whome to issue those are indian citizens, where is a question here about about American citizen as I wa snot asking USA passport from them.I send them certified mail and email few times but not received passport yet. These Indian criminals those are corruptd back home, exploite their own people and more money is less for them and suck their ownpeople bone mero till they die. I like to find out if there is any way to punish these corrupted Desi working for Indian embassy in USA chicago.

]]> By: sabrina http://politeindian.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/to-bribe-or-not-to-that-is-the-question/#comment-2130 sabrina Tue, 03 Apr 2007 15:41:55 +0000 http://politeindian.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/to-bribe-or-not-to-that-is-the-question/#comment-2130 hhhhhh hhhhhh

]]> By: Polite Indian http://politeindian.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/to-bribe-or-not-to-that-is-the-question/#comment-661 Polite Indian Tue, 19 Dec 2006 03:04:21 +0000 http://politeindian.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/to-bribe-or-not-to-that-is-the-question/#comment-661 ARK, Pretty nice comparision. But I guess tips can be considered voluntary whereas bribe is not. ARK,

Pretty nice comparision. But I guess tips can be considered voluntary whereas bribe is not.

]]> By: ARK http://politeindian.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/to-bribe-or-not-to-that-is-the-question/#comment-618 ARK Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:38:49 +0000 http://politeindian.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/to-bribe-or-not-to-that-is-the-question/#comment-618 Unwittingly, I had to pay a bribe to a cop in India for unintentional jumping off road signal. Then I thought of comparing Tips with Bribe.Here is the list. Tips: Popular in USA Bribe: Very common in India, Tips: Paid after good service, Bribe: to be paid for promised service. Tips: Considered Legal Bribe: Illegal and can be jailed by ACB "If caught". Tips: Popular at Hotels and tourist places, Bribe: Occurs at all levels, more in Govt. Depts., It also occurs at highest level in politics and called "Kick backs" Tips: The customer pays to the frontend person. Bribe: genearlly, Govt. looses its money. Tips: do not create much black money Bribes: Create a lot of unaccounted money. Bribe: only ammount of 10 to 15% reached to the poor targeted and 90% goes to middlemen. I welcome some more comparisons and contrasts from your readers. Paid for good service Unwittingly, I had to pay a bribe to a cop in India for unintentional jumping off road signal.
Then I thought of comparing Tips with Bribe.Here is the list.
Tips:
Popular in USA
Bribe:
Very common in India,
Tips:
Paid after good service,
Bribe:
to be paid for promised service.
Tips:
Considered Legal
Bribe:
Illegal and can be jailed by ACB “If caught”.
Tips:
Popular at Hotels and tourist places,
Bribe:
Occurs at all levels, more in Govt. Depts.,
It also occurs at highest level in politics and called “Kick backs”
Tips:
The customer pays to the frontend person.
Bribe: genearlly, Govt. looses its money.
Tips:
do not create much black money
Bribes:
Create a lot of unaccounted money.
Bribe:
only ammount of 10 to 15% reached to the poor targeted and 90% goes
to middlemen.

I welcome some more comparisons and contrasts from your readers.

Paid for good service

]]> By: Apun Ka Desh http://politeindian.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/to-bribe-or-not-to-that-is-the-question/#comment-412 Apun Ka Desh Tue, 21 Nov 2006 08:36:35 +0000 http://politeindian.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/to-bribe-or-not-to-that-is-the-question/#comment-412 On "Collective Cowardice": Catch up on the news. A Judge in Delhi has asked for her case to be withdrawn after 12 Years of fighting. Read here: http://www.ibnlive.com/news/when-a-judge-loses-faith-in-judiciary/26623-3.html If a judge cannot get justice - you can very well imagine the condition of oridnary folks. There is serious problem with a judiciary and large govt. bureaucracy. This requires urgent attention. If collective has to happen to change it - it wouldn't happen on its own - it happens as always - as a result of leadership. Good Leadership is important. On “Collective Cowardice”:

Catch up on the news. A Judge in Delhi has asked for her case to be withdrawn after 12 Years of fighting.

Read here:
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/when-a-judge-loses-faith-in-judiciary/26623-3.html

If a judge cannot get justice – you can very well imagine the condition of oridnary folks. There is serious problem with a judiciary and large govt. bureaucracy. This requires urgent attention. If collective has to happen to change it – it wouldn’t happen on its own – it happens as always – as a result of leadership.

Good Leadership is important.

]]> By: Apun Ka Desh http://politeindian.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/to-bribe-or-not-to-that-is-the-question/#comment-411 Apun Ka Desh Tue, 21 Nov 2006 08:31:49 +0000 http://politeindian.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/to-bribe-or-not-to-that-is-the-question/#comment-411 People bribe because they are left with NO CHOICE or CHOICES are extremely difficult ones. The the system of bribes happen because it is actively promoted by creating artificial shortages. People bribe because they are left with NO CHOICE or CHOICES are extremely difficult ones.

The the system of bribes happen because it is actively promoted by creating artificial shortages.

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